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http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/monash-university-study-finds-three-out-of-four-drivers-believe-100kmh-is-too-fast/story-e6frea6u-1225847800832

 

Im sick of the biased crap coming from Monash university - and here is more of it. Im not even going to begin to point out the flaws of it (there are many - their results even contradict each other), but its more crap that they have put out to please the road safety industry - and ensure more funding for their 'so called research'.

 

Look out for more pressure in the future to reduce speed limits - even though that this has been proven in the US and Italy not to work.

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you're as dead at 90k as you are at 100k... why not just go further and make all freeways 25k zone so everyone is safe... (except old guy in adelaide that managed to kill his wife while parallel parking)

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The "research" tends to contradict itself though.

 

If you read at the end, it says that most people don't do the speed limit anyway.

 

Excellent research that one. :rolleyes:

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The "research" tends to contradict itself though.

 

If you read at the end, it says that most people don't do the speed limit anyway.

 

Excellent research that one. :rolleyes:

 

Yes, any reputable organisation would realise that their research is flawed and would go back and look at their methods.

 

Monash? Well they will simply publish it anyway, because it conveniently says what they want it to.

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adelaidenow used it in a story, yea pretty much already knew it was BS because of that

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If it's that big an issue i don't understand why they wouldn't just set some legislation that all new cars must have 120km/h speed limiters by default, and modification is illegal.

 

and yeah, that study is the biggest garbage ever, even "general public" replies in AdelaideNow think so, which is saying something

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But drivers were less worried about city speed limits, with only a third supporting a reduction in 50km/h and 60km/h roads.

 

So where the population is dense and where stobie poles line the footpaths, there should be no reduction or possibly an increase in speed, and on country roads where it is desolate and the roads are generally in better condition, there should be a reduction in speed?

 

That is a pretty good indication of how retarded that survey is and perhaps in future, the Monash University shouldn't conduct their surveys in nursing homes.

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If it's that big an issue i don't understand why they wouldn't just set some legislation that all new cars must have 120km/h speed limiters by default, and modification is illegal.

 

and yeah, that study is the biggest garbage ever, even "general public" replies in AdelaideNow think so, which is saying something

 

i thought my factory speed limiter was restrictive... dry.gif

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If it's that big an issue i don't understand why they wouldn't just set some legislation that all new cars must have 120km/h speed limiters by default, and modification is illegal.

 

Totally disagree. Sometimes there are instances when speed can get you out of trouble.

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^^ but technically by using speed to "get you out of trouble" you are essentially breaking the law?

 

I guess that related back to the intial story though:

 

MOST drivers believe a speed limit is not the maximum but an approximate indicator of what speed to drive.

 

If they are actually a maximum limit then what is the minimum your allowed to drive on a 100km road?

When is it acceptable to go over this limit? Ever? On Designated Highway Overtaking Lanes? Or is it only a socially acceptable grey area that police dont lay speed cameras at overtaking points?

 

If the country has a maximum limit of 110, why not set speed limiters to 110?

 

If it's an issue of safety with not speed limiting to 110, then why is the 110 speed limit policed, if it's only a "guideline / indicator" that can be broken in the event of an emergency?

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read this in the Advertiser this morning and thought it was total BS

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those results are an absolute joke, people think 100kph is too fast but only 3% of people never speed, so implying that 97% of people have no problems with going over 105kph.

 

:lol:

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If the country has a maximum limit of 110, why not set speed limiters to 110?

then everyone would sit on the speed limiters and there would be no need for speed cameras on highways.

 

no revenue

 

 

deej

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If the country has a maximum limit of 110, why not set speed limiters to 110?

then everyone would sit on the speed limiters and there would be no need for speed cameras on highways.

 

no revenue

 

 

deej

 

/thread

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My thoughts after i read it in the paper....

 

Sounds like someone who rarely drives on country roads, and see's all the hwy fatality's on the news... thinking "speed" was a factor, so lets do something about it...

 

But NO to 50km/h speed limits in citys because it will make the trip longer.

 

If that makes sence.

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But NO to 50km/h speed limits in citys because it will make the trip longer.

 

 

 

 

Almost, no to 50kmh in the city because that will increase congestion and INCREASE accidents. Monash specialising in road traffic research should know this.

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I see the poll on the linked page, has more than 90% of people opposing a reduction in speed limits in rural areas. So much for the Monash research.

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here, speedlimits are generally around 40kays on the main streets n city/shopping areas, its considered expectable to do 60~70kays. 60 kays in other areas = 80~90kays... fark you speed limits.

 

these a a long tunnel threw some contry place with no traffic or houses. posted speed limit is 40kays, generally i sit on speed limiter threw this section. people often indicate left to say its okay to pass lol.

 

 

if they really looked into it properly they would see that speed is actually a very small factor in fatal crashes (imo) drink driving, inattention, fairtegue, arrogance/aggression are the main factors. followed then by genuine driver error and speeding.

 

id REALLY like to see some accurate statistics on modified car fatalities. i do realise there are quite a few dicks who do stupid stuff in there bogan/rice mobils and hurt themseelf/others.

 

also how many people are killed for doing burnouts (this seems to be such a dangerous act in australia)

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O thats hell safe with limiters rolleyes.gif

 

so when a truck is doing 105 in a 110 zone you only get 5kph to pass them?

 

what a f**king joke...

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well, even if someone is doing 80kph in a 100z, when overtaking the speed limit is the least of my worry. im focusing on the other car, the road and possible oncoming cars.

 

speed limits don't work. look at japan. anyone who wants them removed, has them removed.

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If the country has a maximum limit of 110, why not set speed limiters to 110?

then everyone would sit on the speed limiters and there would be no need for speed cameras on highways.

 

no revenue

 

 

deej

 

/thread

 

yes! this is totally end thread worthy!

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O thats hell safe with limiters rolleyes.gif

 

so when a truck is doing 105 in a 110 zone you only get 5kph to pass them?

 

what a f**king joke...

 

 

dude, WTF. if a truck is doing 5kph under the speed LIMIT you have to bus your balls to pass him???

 

this kind of thinking is WHY there are crashes whack.gif

 

well, even if someone is doing 80kph in a 100z, when overtaking the speed limit is the least of my worry. im focusing on the other car, the road and possible oncoming cars.

 

speed limits don't work. look at japan. anyone who wants them removed, has them removed.

 

huh? speed limiters are 180~190 not many people drive this fast

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well, even if someone is doing 80kph in a 100z, when overtaking the speed limit is the least of my worry. im focusing on the other car, the road and possible oncoming cars.

 

speed limits don't work. look at japan. anyone who wants them removed, has them removed.

 

huh? speed limiters are 180~190 not many people drive this fast

 

vast majority don't but that's not the point. the point is, it only takes a little bit of time and cash and the limiter is gone.

 

 

would be the same for a new limiter and the lower it was, more of the population would remove it.

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3% of drivers say they have NEVER gone over the speed limit?

Liars, its impossible not to go over sometimes by accident. Unless they drive 50 in a 60 zone all the time and have never gone 65 kms an hour on a slight downhill without noticing..?

 

I think that it is stupid how the government thinks that with everyone driving with their eyes glued to the speedo instead of the road will reduce the road toll...

100 kph is too slow as it is, A few years ago the NT removed their unrestricted speed limits and then the road fatalities went up... Proof that the speed isn't the issue here. As far as I am aware there is no evidence anywhere in any case that suggests that lowering speed limits lowers the road toll.

 

Fixing black spots and road conditions would be a far safer option than reducing speed limits... And options such as more overtaking lanes to help inexperienced drivers overtake without risking lives.. But of course the government doesn't look like they are doing anything if all they do is upgrade roads. Where are our rego and stamp duty costs going?

 

 

 

 

Australia is going nowhere, seriously the aging population will result in more draconian laws until we become even more of a joke on the international stage. I guess that's what happens when tourists come here and get pinged for doing 2 kms over the limit in their hire car and go back and tell their mates.. Don't think their friends would be too keen on coming to Australia after those stories would they...

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I just use a V8 supercar pit lane 40km/h speed limiter everywhere. Only time i max out is when im in a school zone at 3pm on the way home.

 

Peter89, you know those breathalyser things, after people have lost their licence for drink driving. Not many people do or can get around these systems. I'm sure it could be the same for a speed limiters.

 

General Motoring public will say "oh limiter, ok" and just drive to work bouncing off it. bah bah bah bah bah. I'd get an aftermarket BeeR speed limiter though at least! make it worth my while.

 

Like someone mentioned above, road toll could come down to cloe to 0(apart from dumb asses) if every car was non tamperable speed limited to 25km/h everywhere! BUT, the govt has a balancing act between keeping people happy with travel times and lowering the road toll. We all want 0 deaths, no argument from anyone on this forum. We can achieve it by doing that! can we sacrifice triple the travel times for 300-400 less deaths?? Moral and ethic issues spring to mind.

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O thats hell safe with limiters rolleyes.gif

 

so when a truck is doing 105 in a 110 zone you only get 5kph to pass them?

 

what a f**king joke...

 

 

dude, WTF. if a truck is doing 5kph under the speed LIMIT you have to bus your balls to pass him???

 

this kind of thinking is WHY there are crashes whack.gif

 

Yes because i would rather be doing 110 rather then 105 since 110 is the speed limit.... and that is NOT the reason for crashes, incompetant driving is what causes crashes.

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